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Old 09-25-2008, 03:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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starting a testosterone booster tomorrow

its called 17 hd, and my cousin who works are GNC swears on its effectiveness. its suppose to make work outs more intense and big gains in muscle growth, so we shall see tomorrow. any one ever used anything like this? supposedly its one of the closes things to steroids legally available, but they claim no side effects.
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OMG>>>> How old are you? If you are under 25 DON"T FUCK WITH YOUR TEST LEVELS... PM me or IM me if you want to talk about Designer TEST.
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Some reviews for you. Usually this shit is junk nothing more than energy pills that pack on water weight.

17-HD User Reviews

I am currently in the end of the 3rd week and I have had good strength and muscle size increase. Yes I mean muscle mass not overall mass (water bloat) like other products mention. 17hd is great effects so far..
-Names

If you work out in the morning...this will work for you. Just take it with some food. If you are already taking test boosters then you may not notice as much of a difference. If you are not though, you will notice the energy and strength that it provides. If you are not sleeping well, your energy levels will decrease compared to the first time you took it(you were probably well rested at that time)
-Michael

I would not wish this garbage upon anyone. Honestly, you can get the same results from drinking a cup of coffee before you work out. This stuff will give you energy, and thats all.......seventy dollar energy. Its worthless, so dont waste your money, buy something like no-xplode, or superdrol, or something that actually does what it claims to.
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17HD


4 Sep 2008 - Kam of Hawaii, USA writes:

I've taken several bottles of this stuff and I think it works. I take a lot of supplements and my problem is that I stack 17HD with Novadex so I can't pin point what is effective. To be honest and fair, no supplements that I have ever taken gave me that surge or rush. For me, I write down every part of my workout and that is the only way I can tell if the supplements are working, not the immediate effect that a lot of people are writing about. As for strength, my shoulder presses went up about 40 pounds in 6 months (230 pounds for 7 reps). That was earlier this year. I'm doing 250 for reps now after being off from a rotator cuff injuries for several months. I do inline bench press on the Hammer Strength and I can do reps on 360 pounds.



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My Truth


27 Aug 2008 - Erik of South Carolina, USA writes:

I've tried 17HD. I was on it for 2 months and found it to work very well for strength and muscle stamina. I gained 40lb on my bench max. and the weight and number of reps went up on the rest. I did not feel a "surge of energy" but I did feel more intensity towards my workout. As with all products, what works for one person may not actually work for others. I don't feel that a negative review for this prduct is correct by any means. If you try it, and it doesn't work. Try something else. One size does not fit all when it comes to suppliments, chemicals or even medications. You must be realistic to this FACT! I would recommend anyone to try this and if it doesn't work for you. Try something different.



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READ THIS ABOUT 17HD


26 Jul 2008 - Josh of Indiana, USA writes:

when you use this, take it 30 min before you workout on nearly empty stomach. on non workout days,take it first thing in the morning when you wake up on a nearly empty stomach and wait 30 mins and have a protein shake.this will get you maximum results.it helped me put on 10 pounds within just a few months and helped me get the biggest i'd ever been before. the rush you get when you take it is undeniable.i felt like a monster every time i took it(it even made me growl)lol.i was always in the mood to fight.if you want that cocky on top of the world attitude and the feeling that you are on top of the world then this product is for you.not to mention the awesome muscle pumps and the fact that it keeps your body in an anabolic state. definitly try this product and you will be satisfied!



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Works


11 Jul 2008 - AJ of California, USA writes:

I have been using this for about a month. I wasnt so sure about it at first but noticed i was lifting more wieght than normal right off the bat, it wasnt a massive energy rush but I was lifting way more than normal and now I have gained about 4 pounds in a month with the only differance in my routine, for about a year, being 17-hd, I havnt noticed any side effects and will continue taking.



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so far so good


3 Jul 2008 - sean of New York, USA writes:

i bought the superstack that has the combo of both anabolic 7 and the 17-hd a few days ago. i am 21 years old 6'3 250 lbs and am a football player. i bought this to get better workouts in. i lift 4-5 times a week. i took the product yesterday on my back/chest workout day and was very impressed. i worked out with 2 of my friends and halfway though our session they were draggen, complainen about being tired and sore, and struggling to lift the weights. while they werre doen that i was singen amped up and lifted lifted and lifted. i could tell after the 1st day that the product gives you alot more energy in the weightroom and your muscles never get tired. i am going to take it again soon before my workout and hope i get the same result.



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Mixed Review


29 Jun 2008 - Daniel of California, USA writes:

I read all reviews on 17 HD, most good and some bad. Fisrt day I took it I felt No giant surge of energy but did notice I could put up more weight and felt like the hulk and after my workout I sat down to watch TV to cool off but had the urge to go back and do another session. After the first day I didn't really feel much when hitting the weights, even took it with a Hydroxycut Hardcore(great product) but all I felt was the energy rush from the Hardcore. Let my 50 year old father-in-law try it and he said it made him feel younger. With all that said for $120 a bottle theres gotta be something better. Hydroxycut HC with Amino Acids and protein are the way to go in my book. Thinking about Trying Methyl 1D or T-Bomb II
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:48 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Energy!


6 May 2008 - John of Idaho, USA writes:

I originally purchased this product with the expectation of putting on some weight over the course of a few weeks. Today was my second time using 17-HD, and my goodness!! It has upped my intensity in the gym wwwaayy more than products like NO-Explode or NanoVapor. At the moment, its a great pre-workout supplement--in due time I will find out whether or not it helps up teste levels/helps me bulk. I would recomend this product if your budget allows..



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Not working

3 May 2008 - Marc of Hawaii, USA writes:

I'v take NOXplode, Nanovapor, and Black Powder and seen results with all of them. This is the only one that hasnt worked. I feel no surge of energy what so ever. Not sure why, but I've been taking it for two weeks and no luck yet.



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UPDATE on 17HD

17 Apr 2008 - dmoney of Pennsylvania, USA writes:

well...after careful review, i have to say this product has been a complete waste of my money and time. ive been take it everyday before my workout, and havent felt a thing. im stacking it with creakic and 2shredded(the beast). one day i even took it,and didnt work out just to see if i felt anything...so it hasnt worked at all for me. maybe im doing something wrong? any suggestions?.....



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not really sure....

13 Apr 2008 - dmoney of Pennsylvania, USA writes:

i just purchased the 17 hd product after reading reivews...ill have to say i have only took one pill but according to other peoples reviews i should have felt some incredible surge of energy...which i didnt...so ill give it a couple more trys and see what happens



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Mixed Reaction

2 Apr 2008 - Graham of England, UK writes:

After hearing so much about Vyotech 17 HD I have recently decided to give it a whirl. There is no doubting the surge of energy after the very first pill. I was able to work out for much longer and with more intensity. The downside I expereiced was that my heart felt like it was going to explode out of my chest! I am a long distance runner and would not recommend for anyone mixing weights and cardio. You do have more energy, though I found my body almost rejecting it which resulted in pulling over mid run and vomiting! Those who just do weights, you will definitely see the benefits!



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17 H.D.

1 Mar 2008 - Shane of Michigan, USA writes:

I learned about Vyotech through my brother. So I decided to go buy a bottle and check it out. I was suprised to see that all of the reviews read was dead on. I was working out for about 2 hrs. which is usually were I take my break for the day and I felt like a surge of energy which was effing crazy. I ended up staying there for another hour and when I stopped I'm 100% sure that I could of gone for at least an hour more. Love the product and will stay on it for a very long time.



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great mental edge

30 Jan 2008 - vince of Ohio, USA writes:

I have tried 17 HD before and am on it again after an arm surgery. before i have to say it gave me a huge jump in strength. to me a lot of lifting is mental, and before i deadlift, for example, i imagine i'm a grizzly bear. then i just go for it - and on this product i truly feel insane while lifting. i guess that makes it kinda dangerous for people with anger issues, but i was able to make a very strong mind/body connection. i recommend it for experienced lifters looking for a new edge.



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good but bad

17 Jan 2008 - chris of Florida, USA writes:

Ok I have tried many pre work out products and none compares to this. Its like taking crack lol..you will never feel more energized in yer life. The only 2 things bad about it is I kinda did shake like you do when u drink redlinebut that went away after the workout, and I felt unstopable and kinda felt like I needed to fight. The worst part was later that night if your trying to please yer lady dont count on it. Like all testoserone it was difficult to become erect. Other then that, best product out there



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Just OK...

2 Jan 2008 - Eric of North Carolina, USA writes:

I recently finished taking 17 HD, which I stacked with NO2 Platinum and Muscle Milk, and I have mixed opinions about it. When I first started taking it, my energy and gains were extraordinary. It seemed like on the first day I was lifting ten to fifteen pounds more and I was able to stay in the gym for hours. Gradually, the gains began to level off and the energy level return to normal and after about week 4 I could hardly tell a difference. Also, the stuff made me breakout terribly. Right now, I don't think I will take 17 HD again unless I've hit a plateau.



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works well

20 Dec 2007 - Cameron of British Columbia, Canada writes:

I haven't ttried a full bottle of this stuff but my friend allowed me to take one and I found I could work out longer at tthe gym and barely got fatigued and after I left i felt so pumped I went back to the gym a half hour not even later and worked out again definite energy booster.



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its OK

6 Dec 2007 - Nick of Massachusetts, USA writes:

I have gone through two cycles of 17hd previously before. I did not notice much the first time i tried 17hd, but the second time around i stacked it with NO xplod and gained a ton of strength. Some people say it gives you energy in the gym, I didnt notice any



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Awesome

3 Nov 2007 - Brian of Utah, USA writes:

I've been lifting weights for 20 years. Before taking 17-HD I felt like I was getting old and was tired all the time. After a week of taking it I feel like I have the strength of an ox, like I was 20 again. And Im recovering from workouts like I was 20 too. Incredible.



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6 weeks and reaping the benefits

19 Oct 2007 - Alex of Arkansas, USA writes:

Definitely a good product. Some people make the mistake of staying on it for months, which I wouldn't recommend. Instead, use it for 6 weeks, switch to another type of supplement (testo-booster or prohormone, etc.) and then cycle back on, repeat.6-oxo is a good way to avoid the drag effect between cycles and continue to keep testosterone managiable cycling this product or anything similar. Wanna add 50 pounds on squats? 17-HD will work!



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excellent product..

18 Oct 2007 - Adam of California, USA writes:

ive been using 17 HD now for about 3 weeks, and i work out 5-6 days a week for about 2 hours a day. this stuff is kick ass! im lifting more and longer and deffinaltey noticing the difference in my work outs. the only problem im having with it , is when i take it at night anytime after 9pm, i have trouble sleeping, so i try to work out more during the day now. but yea deffinatley recomend it to anyone who is dedicated to lifting.
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dres, whats your current workout routine like?


i know when im really in the grind of working out.. my body jacks up my testosterone levels on its own...
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Basically dres don't do it.
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This shit is not a miracle. If you have a great foundation and just hit a platue it is ok to give your muscles a boost and look puffy but if not don't waste your money. Buy good quality protien and other supplements you can benefit alot more....If you are gonna push gear use the real shit.
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If you are gonna push gear use the real shit.
QTF. haha but i cant afford the real shit. this stuff was free, and i've heard decent things so i figure why not try it for the 2 mounth supply i have.


as for work out plans i've just been alternating chest tries and shoulders, with back bies and a little leg work. its every other day so some weeks i work out 3 days and others i work out 4.
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What are your current stats? What are you looking to gain? What are your goals? and how hard are you planning on working out?

And the real shit is cheaper than the designer shit. so I have been told.
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sounds like 1AD, a bunch of my buddies in the Marines took that stuff years ago when it was allowed. They had some pretty big gains in size and strength. I noticed my friend lost some strength when he stopped taking it though.
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